The workplace is often a very serious place to be in. Face all tightened up, shoulders raised, and way too few smiles. Humour can do so much for people’s motivation and general atmosphere. Sanjeev NC creates wonderful content on serious topics and is one of the geniuses behind Supermeme.ai, an AI machine that generates memes on business content. He joins Sander to talk about Humour in the Workspace.
What you’ll discover in this show:
– How Supermeme.ai can help your business
– The wonderful videos and other content by Sanjeev
– What a smile can do
Supermeme.ai – AI memes | Office Meetings TikTok Videos | Product @ SuperOps.ai | Business Humor
A generalist, by default. I truly believe in the generalist vision and I’m working on building a wide array of skills in the first 10 years of my career.
I started my career in customer support, then transitioned into sales, then moved into marketing, and now a product manager. I started selling when I was in support, started speaking at conferences when I was in sales, and started building products when I was in marketing. The transition was natural.
I want to change the way technology is being supported right now and I believe that I will one day make a team of Customer Experience Engineers whose prime focus would actually be to focus on great customer experience rather than their individual roles (Sales, Pre Sales, Support, Marketing or Success).
Sander Dur (host)
Scrum Master, Agile Coach, trainer, and podcast host for ‘Mastering Agility”
Sander Dur is a Professional Scrum Trainer at Scrum.org, podcast host of Mastering Agility, Professional Scrum Master, and Lead Agile Consultant and trainer at Xebia. Besides this, he’s an avid writer for predominantly Serious Scrum on Medium.com. Sander has a major passion for the human side in complex domains. Ensuring a high level of psychological safety, therefore, is a critical part of his work. Organizations in complex domains can only survive when innovating. Innovation can only take place with the right balance between low social friction and high intellectual friction. While most organizations now understand how to apply Agile frameworks, they struggle with the delivery of value. Psychological safety is the next step in this evolution and Sander has a huge drive to help organizations reach that step.
Sander is enthusiastic, open-minded, and ambitious. He finds interpersonal relationships and intrinsic motivations very important in team dynamics. Besides his work, Sander loves spending time with his family, enjoys sports, eating healthy, barbecuing, riding his motorcycle, and traveling.
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Sanjeev NC, Sander Dur
Sander Dur 00:04
Welcome back everyone to the mastering agility podcast. This podcast aims to inspire you and others by bringing in the best in the business. And before introducing today’s guest, a quick word on the discord community that we’re hosting related to this podcast also MCs fire and connect other people. My goal, my personal goal is to have about 400 people in that community by the end of the year. Note that this is a completely new thing. We only started doing this at the beginning of q2 by March of this year. So it’s grown rapidly. If we reach that magic 400 Number, we’ll do another awesome giveaway. The only thing that you have to do to be part of that giveaway is to join the community and the link is in the show notes are growing fast. So the chances that we get to that 400 is really big. Now, for today’s guests and the topic we’ll be discussing in a light hearted thing. You were in the workspace with Sanjeev. And see, I think this is a very much underestimated topic. You Americans do so much when it comes to connection with people to make business less serious. And this dude has been making such awesome content has been cracking me up. I just had to have him on the podcast. Looking forward to this episode. Sanjeev How you doing my friend? I’m good too, especially on this topic. Good lightweight topic friends for once talking about humor in the workspace. And that’s where I found you on LinkedIn always dropping these memes. The good funny stuff. I gotta say my usually people have rituals like meditation before they go to sleep, or reading or avoiding screens in general. My routine before going to sleep is browse through nine gag, an app, a website, specifically dedicated to memes. But you are the owner, or the founder of superman.ai. Tell us more about that.
Sanjeev NC 02:12
Superhero AI is an AI name generator and the sounds like you know, okay, now what? How can AI create memes like that they know how to be funny. But then what? Like, you know, there’s three of us who started this company told me and there is Nico, who’s not very far from here. He’s also from Netherlands and essentially who’s based out of Hyderabad Manana, the city in India. So what do you realize this, okay, there’s a part of memes that are funny, that gets shared a lot. And then you go viral and everything. But there is an angle to means that businesses want to leverage, like businesses are looking to stand out in their marketing. And memes seem to be popular. And people are using memes to come in to communicate ideas, talk about the product and all those things. So what you wanted to do was you want to enable marketing teams want to use memes as part of their marketing, we want to enable them to create because meme creation is not easy. There’s a lot of steps involved need to know what template do you need to like, think about the copy, we want to kind of democratize the entire process. And that’s kind of the whole genesis also.
Sander Dur 03:09
And this is perfect cuz you see these things popping up more and more used to be more on platforms like Facebook, or just my friends sent sending memes, like, see what we’ve come up with. But it seems to be on LinkedIn becoming a trend as well. Hashtag me Monday and these kinds of things, which I’m an avid fan of, where do you feel that this comes from? What is the need to get more humor into the workspace?
Sanjeev NC 03:35
Okay, so a lot of time you stand and get saturated, right? So which I think is happening to a lot of the educational content, a lot of the motivational content, or what we call the Guianas content, where people are trying to tell you something, and you don’t want to be those. And that’s kind of what used to like, you know, popular popular amongst LinkedIn, where people will tell you that no, this is what I learned. And it’s still popular today. But the problem is, you’ve seen enough of that and need something else to stand out from the crowd and humor. We all love humor. And that’s something that all of us enjoy. We love reading comics, we love like, you know, funny jokes. And we like watching all these short, funny videos on Twitter. So what hasn’t happened so far is the kind of this business side of things and human coming together, we don’t see a lot of that happening, which I think is picking up now. So we have a lot of people who are focused on business humor, like you know, you have, for example, Dilbert is a great, great example of how when those two worlds come together, like you know, it can create very relatable humor. So just need I just think we need more of that. And humans also a great way to communicate, right? I mean, that’s where I’m coming from, like, let’s say, I do a lot of these short videos on LinkedIn as well, where I try to make fun of office meetings. So for me, it’s predominantly about pointing out the mistakes that people do, and like kind of holding a mirror to them. Like you know, this is this is kind of how you look this is kind of how you sound when you say and do those things. And if it helps them remember and get out of those bad habits. I think that’s that’s kind of what I consider a victory in terms of like for the things that I do. So I think humor is a great vehicle to communicate ideas, and it helps stand out from the regular stuff that you see on LinkedIn or any other social media platform for that matter.
Sander Dur 05:17
How did you get the speaking of those videos because I really enjoy those where you seem to be mimicking yourself and then mirroring and how did you get to that idea? Like, what’s the point that you figured, you know what, I’m gonna do this.
Sanjeev NC 05:32
So it’s okay to be honest, it started with me trying to make a serious like everyone else, right. So I got my phone, I put our tripod, I got these phones, because I need good quality. And then I started talking, I started talking about note taking, like, you know why it’s important to have proper note taking process it like a 10 minute video recorded that played it back and found that nobody’s going to watch the sanely boring, and people don’t need this right now. But then I had the setup already. And that’s kind of when I thought okay, obviously didn’t come to me from No, from out of nowhere, I was already seen, like, following people like Alex’s gay corporate, Natalie corporate row who are really good at the whole business humor product. So Alexis be a stand up comedian in New York. So she does a lot of these startups slash Silicon Valley humor kind of videos, and I’m a fan. I really like those videos. So I thought, let me try something like that with what I know, which is product management. And firstly, I’m also struggling to understand what exactly product managers do and like, you know, what is the role like, so I kind of take that as a topic and start talking about, like, our product, what what the product managers do in meetings, and I recorded that edited it and put it out. And I’m grateful. And I was quite surprised to see the kind of engagement it got. And then I realized, you know, this is something that people seem to like, so let me let me look for more things to make fun out of, and it is all around me, like, you know, you could get so many ideas on to start looking for them. And that’s kind of how I started, like, you know, creating those videos.
Sander Dur 06:54
You mentioned the product manager stuff. And I was just scrolling through. And I see here the training a new project manager video and has almost 15,000 likes, which is for LinkedIn standards, it’s a lot. So let’s pull up and let’s listen to your video for the people who are tuning in. Through audio, you can hear it, you can listen to it.
Sanjeev NC 07:21
I’ve never seen one of my own videos and someone else is gonna be interesting.
Sander Dur 07:25
Well, there we go. So I have a little bit of a prime.
Sanjeev NC 07:32
I do Scrum, Scrum. Kanban. can ban lean? No, no, lean, lean, lean, lean, lean. So what’s the difference between all of them? Okay, so as a certification. Agile is a mindset. It’s a way to look at your project, a way to look at your life. But your LinkedIn profile says agile certified thought leader, yet also certification. So as Kanban also certification, no Kanban is okay to mindset, sometimes, but Kanban is a methodology from the 1940s. Oh, so it’s outdated? No. Next question. So what is this Scrum? Is that also a methodology? No, no, that’s a framework, very different from methodology. How different, you know what, let’s just talk about Lean. That’s the most important part. Now lean, lean focuses on eliminating waste. It eliminates any activity that basis time, like this meeting.
Sander Dur 08:47
Visibly leaves, this stuff is golden. This is genius.
Sanjeev NC 08:53
Thank you, thank you so much, Anna. And this is good, because I was looking at you and kind of the reactions that like, you know, you’re good. Because when you for me, when I create, for example, this video, I did not expect it to do as well as it did, because so I did it for a conference to call this company called jexpo. And it is part of like, you know, me helping with their content. So and then I obviously, like posted it after the conference was done. And project management is not my primary role, right? But then I know enough to kind of create content. So then I realize okay, you know what, these words and when I thought of project management, these are the words that are really confusing me. So let me just build upon something with that. So it is quite surprising to see what resonates and what doesn’t. But yeah, I’m very grateful for the kinds of engagement again
Sander Dur 09:34
that’s pretty cool. But how do you come up with these kinds of videos? What is the trigger that just think I’m gonna go with this?
Sanjeev NC 09:42
Because I am kind of, I used to do this at work right? When you see something that is, like, for example, this case, I was always confused. You know, what are these words? You know, what are these agile Kanban? What are the words because if you if you kind of go deep and read about them, the core principle isn’t that complicated just that the lay labeling and packaging is so common, it makes it look like you know, there’s something so complex that no one can understand you need to go through multiple certifications to understand them. So I just wanted to kind of bring out what I went through when I got exposed to those terms. In obviously, like have like your own version of humor, right? So that kind of how I came up with, okay, what happens when you join a new company? And like, you know, an expert who probably uses these words in every meeting? And for them, it’s second nature, but for someone new, who’s hearing it for the first time, how do they perceive them? So that’s kind of like, you know, how I came up with this. And obviously, it is quite funny. And it’s not as serious like, you know, what is the mindset? What is the framework, what, like, they’re all kind of the same with us if you think about it. And those are the kinds of things that I want to call out saying that you’re, you’re probably paying too much attention to these words and these frameworks in this thing than the actual work. Like towards the end when like a man says, okay, lean is about eliminating waste, which means that entire meeting is a waste, because they’re not talking about anything useful. They’re talking about all things that are buzzwords in the industry. So those are the things that I want to call out.
Sander Dur 11:00
People tend to invest so much time in just having their opinion shared rather than Alright, let’s see what issue we have and how to fix that.
Sanjeev NC 11:11
Yes, yes, yes, yes. Because when you when you, let’s say, propose an idea, usually hear something like, you know, but then agile, like, you know, agile doesn’t recommend or, you know, you hear something like, you know, avoiding the Lean principles, I mean, I don’t know, lean. So I’m just like making things up according to like seven principles of Lean there, you lose the point of this whole thing, right? So lean on a general tool designed to help you get the job done. If it gets in the way of getting the job done, then you’re doing something completely wrong, which is kind of what I observed and what I want to bring out.
Sander Dur 11:41
What’s the general response that you get? Like, is this something that people have relayed to? You see, obviously, there is this movement going on about the certification overload? Like, people are very proud of getting a certificate, obviously, which they should be right. It’s a bit of a step. But it’s not like Scrum is a certification or agile is a certification? Like what’s what’s the general response that you get? I think for
Sanjeev NC 12:07
this meant, from a video standpoint, this one, obviously, the comments and the DMS, I kind of see that, okay, there is definitely an overdose of these terms. But again, like I said, project management is not my primary role. But then I have some thoughts on the certifications, like I used to work in IT Service Management, and we have it we have other like, you know, COVID, and all these certifications there. And the general response is that certifications are obviously not like, you know, completely useless, they provide, they provide a framework, and they provide like a way for you to think about things, but then you cannot hold on to that and try to apply force with that in every situation you face. At the end of the day, you’re the expert, when it comes to a problem in your company, and you know best how to solve it, it doesn’t matter what certification says, It doesn’t matter what the book says, or the framework is. So I again, I don’t know what the response, right, because all all the people who are engaging are including me, we still have a job to keep. And we still have to do what our bosses tell us to do. But then just to just to have a way to voice out what you think, even if you don’t know if it’s right or not. And to see people resonating with that is when you get validated. For me a lot of times, I am usually not very sure what I think because I’ve not been working for that long. But then when you put something out and people respond to it, saying, You know what, I relate to this, you know, I painted the exact same thing I’m going through right now, that is when you get validation that you know, this is actually a real problem. And like at least I was right about this the whole time.
Sander Dur 13:30
One of the things that stood out to me is you’re not just these are comedy clips, right? This is it’s comedy gold, but you’re not necessarily a comedian. And I think being a proper comedian is way harder than being for instance as your your you’re more on the product side of things, you create this this super meme.ai If I scroll through your your LinkedIn says often really dark tick tock videos as well and product. You’re doing a lot of other stuff than just this. Yet, I think the most difficult thing is coming up with these ideas that actually resonate there are something that’s that’s proper comedy. How do you work with is this something that you’ve been trained in? Is this just some God given talent that’s
Sanjeev NC 14:23
not definitely not been trained at this, but but that is something that I’m exploring on the site right now. So to be honest, until the first video that I posted, I did not realize that I could make videos. I mean, that’s not me. Like, that’s not something that I’ve ever experienced. That’s not something that I’ve ever explored. Like I’ve not done like, you know, theater, I’ve not done any of that. But then to see a lot of in the, in the pandemic, when I saw a lot of people recording and posting these videos, I just realized that you know what, it’s not something that is completely out of reach, like, you know, you can still do, what you didn’t expect is my ability to kind of mimic a lot of institutions right and, and I don’t think I wouldn’t call myself like a Rate actor or comedian, all I’m trying to do is we create real situations. And maybe I like writing humor like, and I always used to create memes. And even in my conference presentations where I talk about things like IT Service Management, I still use memes, I still use humor, and I still try to get the audience to laugh. So that part is always been with me. But the actual comedy part is something I’m discovering, like, you know, as I as I go through, so I am like, now with all the response I’m getting, I’m wondering if you know, that is a part that is constantly, maybe try to see if I can get trained, like, you know, to maybe, I don’t know, write scripts for a comedy show, or write sketches. So all those things I want to learn to do properly. But right now, I’m just like, winging it. I’ve not been trained for any of this.
Sander Dur 15:46
Do you give feedback on this as well? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Sanjeev NC 15:49
I mean, most of the feedback is, through the comments and on the videos, but then what what the little moments of happiness is when someone like, you know, at work, or when you meet people at conferences, or in business setting, like, and people recognize you, and they say, You’re the guy that posts videos on LinkedIn, right? I’m like, yeah, yeah, that’s me. And, like, you know, we really like your videos, very, it resonates with a lot of what we do those kinds of feedback is, it’s kind of keeping going. Now that you mentioned, I don’t, I can’t remember. Like, you know, getting something from an area of improvement standpoint or critical feedback. Because I feel I don’t I try to stay safe. Right? I don’t there’s not a topic that I take that is probably potentially offensive. So I try to stay away from those areas. But thankfully, I’ve not heard anything from beginner what you shouldn’t have said that. You shouldn’t have done that like that that line was not not good. So I haven’t heard anything like that. That’s good so far, but mostly people have been kind enough to say nice things.
Sander Dur 16:47
Because, for instance, what’s I can think of the name, it’s it’s a stand up comedy club, somewhere in the US, I think they’re coming from Boston, but I forgot their name. But what they do after a comedy show is a key people in there and do new stuff, new material material to ask for feedback. Yeah. I think it’s one of the toughest things, if you have to come up with these kind of feedback yourself on what to improve and how to make it more stick, especially with this, this comedy stuff. That’s so hard. And how do you engage with your target audience? How do you ensure that the next video is going to be another success?
Sanjeev NC 17:26
No, definitely, because I have a lot of not a lot, but a few friends who do stand up comedy. And I kind of know the process, they go through the test new material, like, you know, they do a lot of these open mics. And then like also feedback, and I traded until they get to their actual show. And that’s something that I’ve acknowledged, I’ll be able to do. So I’m not, I’m not a very comfortable Live Performer and not be able to get in front of a crowd and do it. So that is a process that I’ll not be able to do. So for me, the feedback usually comes from the kind of videos that I put out, I kind of get it. So it’s not like I create a video, send it to people and get feedback. So my feedback is like, like, you know, when I post a video, if it doesn’t get the reads are expected to do I kind of go back to the video to see if there is something in the and I also look for patterns. For example, with the training the new product project manager videos, it’s a broad topic, and I find that the broad topics get good. And for example, I have other videos that talk about every Zoom meeting, I have, I have videos that talk about every conference presentation, or these are all videos that did pretty well. And they’re all broad, they appeal to a largest recording, not just tech. So the the videos are focused on tech, for example, there’s a video that that is about every troubleshooting call ever. It’s a very It focused video, only people who work in support and it will understand that then do ask, that’s one of my favorite videos because I used to work in it, I kind of know the pain when someone calls you and gets you to like, you know, fix their laptops, I know the pain that you go through. It did not do well, I thought so my feedback is mostly from these kinds of retrospective kind of retrospective. So and I’m okay with that, because I’m also not the kind of person who’s very comfortable and actively seeking feedback not because I don’t respect it. For me, the joy comes from creating these and posting them. So the engagement and the likes and the comments are more outcomes of the content. But my happiest moment is when I record a video edited at all times and I finally played but for the first time that’s where I find joy. So for me the creative process ends there and after I posted what happens after that is more of an outcome of that it could be good it could be bad and I’m grateful so far like I said for all the engagement but then I’m okay with this because I’m not doing this full time is not like you know my main gig so this is more I do this because I want to not because I depend on so there is nothing that I do to actively seek feedback.
Sander Dur 19:44
I think that’s that’s the power behind it as well because you’re passionate about it just because you like it not necessarily because you have to there’s I think there’s nothing worse than forced comedy. Yeah, this is just you and that makes it so cool. Do you take those the things Is the people mentioned out in comments as such? Do you take that into the platform of super meme.ai? as well?
Sanjeev NC 20:07
No. So there, I mean, the, to me that AI is still like, you know, early stages, it’s such a new thing to explore, we don’t know a lot of what we’re trying to do. So all we know, is that we can teach AI to be funny. And we can teach AI to pick the right templates based on what the user wants. That’s kind of how much we’ve discovered. So Supermicro today will focus purely on meme templates. So it has nothing to do with like, you know, the videos kind of what I do, so they’re completely separate. But then even I mean, in my aspirational vision for Superman today, I wanted to kind of be the business humor platform. And even I don’t know what that means today. But like, imagine if AI can’t wife like real script for you. Like, imagine if AI can generate a comic, comic strip out of thin air for you. And for your specific situation with with tools like Dolly, which can generate images, like it’s not, it’s not impossible. So that’s kind of where we think soon, AI should evolve. But it’s obviously early stages so far. So right now we work with memes. And we gather a lot of meme templates, and we kind of saw our our triggers in identifying the right meme template for you. So when you go in there and type in, let’s say something like, you know, agile is not a certification. So mindset, just randomly thing. So it will figure out the right template to communicate that message. Obviously, it can be right can be wrong, but we want to help people who are not familiar with mean creation. So that’s kind of where it comes in. So that’s that’s the limit, not limitation. That’s kind of what it’s designed to do so far.
Sander Dur 21:36
How far are you away from that? Because I feel I find that AI. I am by no means an expert in AI. I have very little knowledge on that. So anything related to that, I think it’s very interesting, especially if you if this is a machine comes up with humor. How does that work?
Sanjeev NC 21:57
It is I mean, in fact, I used to be like you, before I started this, I’m not a technical person. I’ve never coded. I don’t understand how any of these works. But then thankfully to be willing Gramsci and Nico, like, who are kind enough to explain how for how all this works. So with Superman, I mean, that’s the part that I understand, right? So to be in, what we do is we give it examples, we say, Okay, now, this is how a meme text looks like. This is kind of how it looks. And for this situation, this is the meme that you that you generate. So when you give it enough examples, AI can kind of take that as an input and generate similar funny text. And I would say it does a decent job. I in fact, use it when I want to create memes, and I run out of ideas, I just go in there and type in what’s on your mind is it at least helps me kind of, you know, puts me in the right path. Like it definitely fast tracks the entire creation process. Like I’ve generated a lot of product manager means using someone named or AI, it’s given me a lot of ideas. The truth, I think what we’re still trying to figure out is how do you pick the right name template, which, which I think is hard even for me, right? Like, I’ve created so many memes. But then when I want to create a meme, I’m struggling to know what template should I use, I go on image clip, I keep browsing the pages until I find the one that I like, adding, that’s kind of where we add the most value. Because without even knowing what meme to create it in come in and just type in what’s on your mind. And it will pick the template, write the copy, put it together and generate a meme for you. So when it comes to writing humor, I feel like it’s not as complicated as at least the the front part. But I’m sure that there is a complex algorithm happening behind the scenes, which again, I don’t know, but then it’s not as as complicated as I thought it would be.
Sander Dur 23:36
And that’s a good thing. Then, how soon do you see your aspirational vision? actually coming to life? This one,
Sanjeev NC 23:44
what are you talking about? Yeah, so this one, what I talked about is possible today, like you know, you can you can go in there and try it out yourself. Obviously, like, for example, I want to generate original comics, like Dilbert like comics with AI, I don’t know, I don’t even know if that’s possible. Like I want to generate maybe like, you know, animated videos, like real style videos. Again, I don’t know, it’s possible. But we want to keep it in the area of humor and help businesses leverage humor in their marketing. And that’s kind of been our mission, like, you know, when we started as well, because we were very clear that we want this product to make money. We don’t want this to be like a hobby product that we just find out. And we want this to be useful. We want to want to be so useful that people are ready to pay for it. I think we are kind of you know, moving in a direction, we have few people paying for it. But then it’s not yet achieved that critical mass that we would hope. But we are definitely moving in the direction businesses are interested in this idea. But they’re still not ready to probably adopt it mainstream. So you start hanging around until, like, you know, businesses are ready for something like this. And then I’m sure that you know, people will find a lot of use cases for this.
Sander Dur 24:47
I think if there’s actually this engine will ultimately work properly. There’s, besides comedy besides memes and besides just the fun behind it, that there would be quite serious things that you could Use the AI machine for right? Yep. How do you see that spiral are spiraling down in the or spiraling? Do you see that continuing down the line?
Sanjeev NC 25:12
At least again, for me, I have not thought about much beyond human right. But again, I see moving parts, for example, I see Dolly, which is from open AI, we use ePdP. It’s from open. So DBT is a text generator. So when you give an input to CPD three, it will, it will kind of you know, it will read, let’s say, three inputs, and it will kind of give you a core level output. For example, I say something like, whatever it is, yeah, so let’s Agile is a mindset, not a certification. And then let’s say for corresponding text, I say something like, you know, when you want to be agile, you do a certification i and, and I kind of repeat these things, it will learn from it. So for an input, it will learn from my existing inputs, and then give me something else. Now that is techspace. Now with Dolly, what it can do is let’s say I write something like a, like a hot like a person on a horse carrying a score. That’s what I like, Dolly is smart enough to generate an image for that caption, which means it kind of understand what what to give it, and then it generates an image. Now imagine these two together is very powerful, where you could generate original meme templates that you know, original comic strips, you could do a lot now. And these are the two things that I already know of, there are so many other things out there that I don’t know about.
Sander Dur 26:24
So this stuff is insane. And makes me think about a post. That’s sure it’s Nylund wrote a few weeks ago, where he had a I create entire pieces of artwork. And the results were astounding. It’s so cool to see what these things can actually make and create it. It’s actual art. It’s not just a random picture with pixels here and there. It’s actual art. It’s insane. Yes. So where do we need? Where do we need painters for?
Sanjeev NC 26:57
I mean, that’s where you would think that again, I also strongly believe that even with AI doing so it will take away the monotonous part. For example, like I think about superhero day as a block remover for me, right? Let’s say I’m stuck somewhere. Like I’m I mean, like, I don’t have to say it means for living, but there are people who have to like, for example, if you’re managing social media page for a company that already always post memes, you can’t just talk with me that will. So you need something. And that’s kind of what copywriting I did with marketers, if you’re a content writer, and you need to come up with ideas, you can go to copyright AI, give it some input, and you have something to start with, which is kind of what how we think about it as well. But the surprising part is a lot of these needs are readily usable, you don’t have to go to any any sort of modification on them, you can just like directly take them and put it. And this is something similar with the with the dolly as well, right? It will give you inspiration, it will short circuit, the creative process. But I still feel like for real or for a lot of things you will need someone you will need a real person kind of doing it. But these will be good assistants. And that’s kind of how I look at AI. They are always good assessments, they can never fully take over what people do.
Sander Dur 28:05
Yeah, because that’s something that pops to mind as well. Technology is putting more and more people out of business in general. But now that if you have a fully automated AI that actually is able to create pinpoint perfect jokes, buns umur, then it’s gonna put out it has the possibility to put down the entire industry of comedians. Like no more Joe Rogan no more fluff, no more. I mean, you could worst case scenario,
Sanjeev NC 28:35
yeah, totally. That’s like a terminator style scenario. But then I still feel like one as far but to use will need someone to pick out the good ones from the bad ones like it can, it has the potential to turn out because we’ve worked with so much it has the potential to like, you know, come up with so much junk content that you will need someone to look at it and keep using it. But again, a lot of us have been proven wrong, like, you know, with the things that we’ve said, so you never know.
Sander Dur 29:01
I’m really curious to see what’s going to have that’s gonna go down, what’s gonna happen there, what’s the best results you’ve had so far when it comes to these to the to the platform of SuperMeet SuperMeet AI?
Sanjeev NC 29:13
I think for me personally, because I make a lot of memes on product managers. So all in the product managers means and it’s also the inputs to this is something that I personally wrote. So a lot of the product manager means usually end up being pretty on point because I kind of know what product managers go through. So the inputs are quite accurate. So that one is something that’s usually turned out the best performer means standpoint, but from a result standpoint, I feel like people are generally curious about the idea so we get 50 people signing up every day and we have willingly spent $0 on marketing we with a side project so we don’t have money to spend on it. But we still get two people signing up every day like you know from Product Plan from like, you know, from social media from someplace we don’t even know where but that is a very encouraging and kind of successful for us, because the idea seems to have taken off late. What happens after that is something we still have to figure out. But getting 50 people, like you know, signing up every day. And then we are about 1500 signups right now, which is a great number. And that’s an unbelievable number for us, given that we started with three of us about like six months, but we have to, we have to figure out a way to capitalize on that that’s something that we’re working on.
Sander Dur 30:23
Awesome. The best meme that I’ve seen so far, at least the one that resonates with me, so the most is where you had the large container, ship, vessel, whatever, stuck in the Suez Canal. And LinkedIn went ballistic over there. Yeah, yeah, so the mostly safe bashing kinda kind of means popping up, and they were super successful. Yeah, the fun thing to see with those kinds of things is people start responding to them. Because of that, they start liking your profile, connecting to and then a lot of things can happen from based on those new connections. So it’s not just the value in the user itself, it’s also about the connectivity and relating to you. As well,
Sanjeev NC 31:11
this combination is happening because of that, and a lot of my other conversations happening, because they will follow me through the video on the basis of that I’m also building a AI ninjas radio. So humor, I think has, let’s say, if you’re, if you’re posting content about project management, and like, you know, you’re trying to teach something, if that reaches 10 people, again, I don’t, I’m not an expert. But I think if you post the same content, and you try to infuse humor into it, and if it’s genuinely funny, and it’s not like the host humor, like you said, it can reach 100 people. So that’s, that’s the kind of our humor has, because you don’t have a problem sharing a meme or a comment with a colleague, you probably don’t want to share something that’s motivational or something that’s educational, because it’s, it’s not you don’t know someone likely you don’t know, like, you know, you will come across something, but then you will have no problem sharing something funny. And that’s, I think, the power of sharing humor on platforms like LinkedIn, because people want to share something funny. And we’re just like riding off on that.
Sander Dur 32:05
And it seems to be working very well, so far. This almost getting to the end. Where can people find your videos? Where can people find your memes?
Sanjeev NC 32:17
I’m active on almost all social media. So I’m concealing it on LinkedIn, Twitter, and Instagram as well. I also have a YouTube channel continuamente, again, where I’ve uploaded all my videos. So I can I can be found in all these platforms. I’m active everywhere. And YouTube is currently the easiest way to find all my videos in the same place. Everywhere else. It’s on social media. So that’s a good place to start.
Sander Dur 32:40
I’m going to include them on in the show notes as well. Is that where can people find you specifically? Yes. Connected to you personally.
Sanjeev NC 32:51
Twitter is a great place for directly messaging me and LinkedIn as well. For both these places, I’m very active. I also have a website Sanjeev nc.com, where I write about like, you know, product management, professional growth, productivity, like pretty much all the things that I dabble with. So that’s also a great place to kind of understand what I talked about and the different things that I’m interested in.
Sander Dur 33:17
Awesome, I’ll put it all in the show notes where people can find your videos, your personal stuff. Thank you very much for being here. And I’m definitely looking forward to all the magic that you’re gonna come up with.
Sanjeev NC 33:28
Thank you so much sander for having me.
Sander Dur 33:31
Most welcome. And that’s it for today’s episode. Thank you very much for being with us thank yous and G for being our guest in this awesome episode. Really enjoyed it. Hopefully, I’ll see you guys in the discord community if you’re not already in there, and a reminder on the giveaway if you reach the magic number of 400 by the end of this year, of course next year we’re going to do a way bigger number but for now the 400 is to me is magic. And I’m hoping that we’ll get there by the end of the year we’ll be doing a giveaway. There’s a lot of news in there. You can join our episodes on the podcast as being in the audience through the discord community. The hopefully see you guys there not hope you guys tune in for the next episode of the mastering agility podcast.