Zombie Scrum with Johannes Schartau and Christiaan Verwijs


Scrum is lightweight framework; easy to understand, hard to master. It provides four formal events and one container event. It’s not prescriptive. But still, it’s pretty hard to use in practice. Just going through the motion is not going to help teams and organizations to reap the benefits Scrum can provide. Johannes Schartau and Christiaan Verwijs from The Liberators are here to talk to us about what they call “Zombie Scrum” is how you can cure it. 

What you’ll discover in this show:

–          Scrum Zombies can appear in every organization
–          The Zombie plague can be cured!
–          Zombie Scrum is not just a team problem


Johannes Schartau

Organizational Consultant

I am an Agile Coach, international speaker, complexity and integral thinker, Liberating Structures user, and Zombie Scrum fighter. I am also the co-author of the “Zombie Scrum Survival Guide” together with Christiaan Verwijs and Barry Overeem. Out now as part of the Professional Scrum Series at Addison-Wesley.
 Contact Johannes Schartau:

Christiaan Verwijs

Co-Founder of The Liberators

I enjoy igniting positive change in teams and organizations. It is my strong belief that people should be empowered to drive change themselves, rather than being told by management or consultants how to change. My mission is to liberate the world from dehumanizing and demotivating workplaces by helping organizations find better ways to tap into the creativity, intelligence, and wisdom of people. I feel that this is the best way forward in this world of complex work. Based on my personal experience and my background in software engineering and organizational psychology, I have found both the Scrum Framework and Liberating Structures to be powerful ingredients here.
 On a more personal note, I live in Utrecht together with Lisanne and our crazy cat Fender. I enjoy painting, reading, and gaming. I also enjoy a good beer paired with a good burger.
 Contact Christiaan Verwijs:

Sander Dur (host)

Scrum Master, Agile Coach, trainer, and podcast host for ‘Mastering Agility”

Sander Dur is business agility enthusiast, with a passion for people. Whether it’s healthy product development, agile leadership, measurement or psychological safety, Sander has a drive to enable organizations to the best of their abilities. He is an avid article writer, working on a book about Scrum Mastery from the Trenches and is connecting listeners with the most influential people in the industry. 


 Additional resources: 

For more information on Zombie Scrum, check this website out: zombiescrum.org
To see is included in the give away set, you can read everything right here: https://shop.theliberators.com/products/the-zombie-scrum-survival-guide?variant=36610938273942

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